Thread: Für verrückte/ fraghafte Theorien

> Luna ist ein neuer Chara bei Harry Potter Band 5. Sie ist etwas verrückt, geht nach ravenclaw und ist in der 4. klasse. Ihr voller Name ist Lona Lovegood

Dankeschööön! ^_____^ Luna heißt meine Katze... wie doof <.< *gg* Spielt sie denn eine wichtige Rolle?

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	Von:	MsMagpie	28.06.2003 02:07 Direktlink zum Posting
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> > Luna ist ein neuer Chara bei Harry Potter Band 5. Sie ist etwas verrückt, geht nach ravenclaw und ist in der 4. klasse. Ihr voller Name ist Lona Lovegood
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> Dankeschööön! ^_____^ Luna heißt meine Katze... wie doof <.< *gg* Spielt sie denn eine wichtige Rolle?
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Bisher ist Luna mehr eine Art Lückenfüller (für welche Lücke allerdings weiß ich nicht^^"), wird aber möglicherweise in den nächsten bBnden... Sie hat einige Gemeinsamkeiten mit Harry und ist bisschen wunderlich. Mir ein bisschen *zu* wunderlich, ich mag sie nicht so besonders^^.

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	Von:	abgemeldet	05.07.2003 22:39 Direktlink zum Posting
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@ draco-mädchensache

glaube ich nicht, WEIL......... tom felton draco spielt im film... überlegt mal, hätte rowling nicht was dagegen gehabt, daß draco auf einmal stimmbruch hat? O_O sie hätte sicherlich einen feminineren jungen als tom felton gewählt oder?... un wenns doch wahr is... is der ganze film fürn arsch XD'''

wobei es auch wirklich stimmen könnte, da rowling immer erwähnt, daß er so zierlich gebaut is (siehe quidditch.. "malfoy war der kleinste und leichteste der spieler") un so...o_O boar...

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-*-Ne, MaMa!...iiKo Ni ShiTeRU yo...?***
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	Von:	Mary-chan	06.07.2003 14:44 Direktlink zum Posting
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Hier eine sehr interessante Theorie, leider komplett auf Englisch.

One thing I have wondered though, is how Dumbledore knows that Harry's
mother died to protect him. Was there a witness that we don't yet
know about? Harry never told DD about hearing his parents die when
the dementors were at Hogwarts, did he?

>Und Harry hat Lupin nie auf dieser Mappe von James etc.gesehen wo man die
ganzen Leute sieht die sich in Hogwarts bewegen.<

I concur. James' body is the one that emerged from the wands,
but is spirit is still trapped in Remus' Body. I think in theory
that the priori Incantatem spell spits on the target of the spell and
not necessary the soul or true ghost of the target.
If you want further proof of J.K. Rowling playing with our
minds, recall that many of the earlier editions of the goblet of fire
had what we thought was a mistake during the priori incantatem
sceene. In these particular books, it was written that Voldemort's
victims came out in reverse order. BUT, James came out BEFORE Lily in
early editions and speaks to Harry, "your mother's coming..she wants
to see you..." That would mean that James died after he killed Lily
and it said all over in the books that he killed James first. (Fixed
in later versions of the book.)
This is not a honest error people! First off, I could believe
it was a mistake if she just wrote that James came out first, but she
then wrote "your mother is comming" which means she consciously but
james first. If it was an honest mistake I think she would have
caught it when she wrote that line. And then they go and change the
order to fit logic and fact! Now why would JK write it with James
comming out in the first place? To mess with us of course! She did
it, because it provides a loophole! When James' body says, "your
mother is comming", that does not necessary mean the James echo is
really Harry's father! JK could hide the fact that James' spirit did
not die with his body.
But then some of you will argue, "hhhmmmm, okay sounds right,
but what about the fact that they corrected it later?" Okay lets
analyze this. The echos already knew each other and were able to
communicate between themselves before they emerged from the wand.
Isn't it possible that they could intentionally SWITCH (theres that
word again, switching spells) places before comming out? If Harry's
father can say, "your mother's comin..." then he can also have come
out first on his own accord. Those original book editions are
fishy! JK is twisted. I wouldn't put it past her to do something
like this.

Ok, for those of you who have read, the "Ultimate Unofficial Guide to
the Mysterious of Harry Potter" you will already be familiar with
this theory, but I have book 5 evidence that further supports the
theory. If you haven't read that guide book, buy it now, it is the
best, most thorough, and funniest summary and analysis i have
encountered ever!
The theory or more appropriately is the assertion that the Remus
J. Lupin we know is in fact James Potter's mind and sould trapped in
Lupin's body. Here's the book's explanation:

In the legend of Romulus and REmus, Remus was killed by his brother
(or his brother's (wormtail) followers (deatheaters). The Remus J.
Lupin we know is probably James Potter switched into Lupin's body
with a Switching Spell. (was that Lily's work?) Have you ever wonder
why we always see random Switching Spells as well as socks, clocks,
watches, wooly clothes, funny noses, long hair, long fingers, eyes,
and other various references spontaneously placed all throughout the
books? They aren't random, but important septology clues that will
be important in the last couple books.
J.K.R. makes it clear that there is something special about Lupin.
In interviews, she has answered that Remus is her favorite character
and that is why book 3 is so important to her to write. We ask
ourselves, "why is Remus so important? What makes J.K. like him so
much, or better stated, value him so much?" Does J.K. have a thing
for kind, intelligent, animalistic men? Maybeâ€¦certain things about
Lupin tell us that there is more to Remus than meets the eye.

Book 1 evidence, "How did Dumbledore get James' Invisibility Cloak,
and how did Hagrid get the key to the Potters' vault?" Logic would
tell us that, unless the Potters purposefully left those important
possessions behind for safe keeping, we would expect them to keep
those, especially the cloak for extra stealth.

Book 3, unlike everyone else, Lupin never stared at Harry's scar or
mentioned his eyes or resemblance to James. (ch 5) Lupin simply
addresses Harry by name as if he was already very familiar with him.
(like on the train to Hogwarts)

Harry tells Lupin that when a Dementor gets near him, he hears hi mum
being murdered by Voldemort. On hearing this, Lupin had made "a
sudden motion with his arm, as though to grip Harry's shoulder, but
thought better of it." Ch 10. Lupin may be relating Harry's emotion
or his own, but he is trying to distance himself from Harry. There
is no reason why he should stop himself from just gripping Harry's
arm if he were Lupin. Something here is affecting him, too.

Trelawney said that Lupin "positively fled when I offered to crystal
gaze for him â€“" ch 11
He's obviously afraid of exposing something. We might have
thought he was just afraid that she might discover he's a werewolf;
however, we learned that the whole staff already knew of that. Why
would Lupin flee, instead of politely declining. He's hiding
something.

When Harry tells Lupin he is hearing his mum's voice louder, Lupin
loos "paler than usual." Harry then tells Lupin how he hears his
dad's voice for the first time trying to hold of Voldemort so his
mother could escape. "You heard james?" said Lupin in a strange
voice." Cha 12.
Hearing about Lily didn't make him sad; it made him pale.
Why would Lupin react oddly to Harry hearing James? Because of the
odd circumstances â€“ he realized it wasn't James saying it.

Professor Lupin who was "both shaken and please, " comes over to
congragulate Harry on his spectacular Patronus. (Ch 13). Lupin is
shaken from seeing what we later learn is James' own Patronus

Professor Lupin enters the room in a "shower of red sparks" ch 17 â€“ A
true Gryffindor, like Harry pulling out the Gryffidor sword and his
first year visit to ollivanders.

"I certainly don't want Harry deadâ€¦" "An odd shiver passed over his
face." (Ch17) â€“ That's not just a teacher or a friend saying that.

Lupin: "now that we could all transform." Ch 18
Why wouldn't he say, "Now that they could all transform"?

Lupin has "no hesitation" about what Harry's father would think. Ch
18. Why is he so sure about what Harry's father would Think?

We know that J.K. likes to mess with the readers, by how she
personally thinks of the story by using the dialogue of the
characters, for example: Dumbledore's ingenuous mirror of erased
trick. "so ingenious, that I even surprised myself â€“
Dumbledore/Rowling. Also, in book 5, Phineas Black portrait, "I
disagree with some of the things he says, but you got to admit
Dumbledore's got style" That's the author talking, too. She loved
writing about that whole dueling scene in the headmaster's office and
she wanted you to know it. So when Dumbledore mentions in book3 that
all four map-makers did appear in some form on the Hogwarts grounds
that night we are convinced that Harry's father was there, too. J.K.
was dropping a huge hint there, right under our nose â€“ b/c we all
thought that James appeared as the Prongs the Patronus, not stuck in
Lupin's body. Wow, she's really good.

Book 5. If you can recall the conversation about Remus failing to
control James and Sirius form causing trouble, then think about the
memory in Snape's pensieve, the one were Sirius and James go off to
pick on Snape and Remus doesn't even bother to try stopping them.
That totally conflicts with what Remus said before. That's because
it's really James who said that, but he doesn't know how Remus acted
exactly and therefore made the mistake of contradictly the truth
while joking around to make Harry feel better.

The book says that James and Remus probably switch bodies because
they had doubts about Sirius as the secret keeper and as an extra
precaution decided to have Lily use a Switching Spell without anyone
else knowing. After the switch and the attack, Lily and Remus die,
while James is alive hiding somewhere unknown. In Harry's head, the
voices never identified the man speaking as Harry's father or as
simply James. We assume its him, but there's purposefully no
evidence there to suggest it. J.K. can later spring this twist on us
and not contradict herself. She is so sly. So James is stuck in
werewolf form.
After reading book 5, I have to question this theory, because it is
revealed that Voldemort is only after Harry, because of the
prophecy. His parents are actively working against Voldemort, but
have no real threat against him. So if this switch theory is true,
why did James need to switch? He should have stayed to protect lily
since it was Harry's life that would determine Voldemort success.
Perhaps, since there are hints about Harry being a descendent of
Godric Gryffindor, that there are powers that go with being a
founder's heir that Voldemort wants to prevent also and not just the
prophecy? We have been led to believe that Voldemort is after all
the Potters, but we know that we can never fully trust in what any
character tells Harry besides what Dumbledore and usually Hermione
say. Or also when Ron is joking. Did anyone catch the jokes about
Cho exploding and Gryffindor's chances at winning the Quidditch cup
being as good as Mr. Weasley elected Minister of Magic!!!! Ooh, that
would be so cool. A lot of fanfiction have Mr. Weasley as the new
Minister!

Who thinks Neville's scene at St. Mungos is dodgy? How did
he miss that Devil's Snare plant? He's the Herbology buff, after
all. And that granny of his is definitely suspicious, too. I think
she might have something to due with that plant, or it was that guy,
with the funny ear thing, in front of the Weasley's who asked to
visit bode. I get the feeling from how Neville responds to her in
the past as well as in that scene that Granny belittles him and
prevents him from being himself. We see that he is becoming a very
capable wizard and has shed his shyness shell. I was really
impressed with his bravery in the Department of Mysteries fight.
We'll definitely see him playing a more active role in the central
plot later.
Back to the hospital; I got the feeling that he wasn't at all
ashamed of his parents, but just reluctant to share his feelings
about his parents especially granny always putting him down. Who
wears a great big vulture on their head and Slytherin colors? She's
dodgy. What about Neville's notoriously horrible memory and
clumsiness. We've seen that beforeâ€¦Lockhart and Mr. Roberts the
muggle at the Quidditch world cup. All from memory charms. Could it
be that Neville's limitations are due to a memory charm, possible
placed on him while his parents were tortured? Why bother with a
charm on a little kid? Death eaters would just kill the kid and
prevent loose ends, right? So there had to be a reason if he was
really charmedâ€¦maybe ole granny knows.
Neville seemed annoyed with granny at the hospital and didn't
listen to her about the gum wrapper. I think the gum wrapper is
significant. She keeps giving it to him for some reason, and we know
J.K. is not generous with details for no good reason. Could it be a
clue to some mystery related to the memory charm?

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